I was left gasping for breath during Debora Patta's so-called grilling of Fidentia's J Arthur W Brown. In the build-up she kept urging viewersw to watch him try worm his way out of the allegations etc. She shrieked,squealed and frothed her way through the most hysterical (literally)and unprofessional "interview" I have ever seen. And when she yelled at him that the interview was "useless and pointless!" I had to pick myself up off the floor. Yes, it was, but the fault for that lay entirely at her egotistical door. She was left looking the fool, not her calm, somewhat amused target. What a wasted opportunity.

Can somebody please tell...what happened to Tumi Makgabo's Talk show on Mnet. I think she is a classy lady who research her topic very well. Any chances of coming back????

Tumi is now one of the Local Organising Committee members of the 2010 cup

I like 3rd degree, at least we can see deeper into whats happening in our country, thank for being in e,

HI
I FEEL THAT PATTA IS DOING A GOOD JOB BY LETTING THE COUNTRY SEE THE TRUTH
THIS CAN REALLY OPEN YOUR EYES
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PATTA

I conquer with you,Patta is such a good researcher who has got passion and zeal of getting what is happening behind bars and present it to us as viewers of her show. To put it in a nutshell,she is eager 2 let people know about the truth.

Wolves in sheep’s clothing

I want to commend Deborah on her outstanding straight forward confrontational methods toward issues that are destroying the church as a whole. From a Christian perspective, when Jesus addressed the Pharisees and their manipulating ways toward their unsuspecting congregations, he was straight forward with them. He addressed them as brewed of vipers. The very people that were supposed to help and display ethical, trustworthy, dependable values were the very people who were wolves in sheep’s clothing.

I could not understand why the woman at the church was defending her minister in such a radical manner. I have noticed that some people have more love for their ministers than for truth. This reminds me of the Israelites nation during the Exodus, did you know that those people perished because they lack knowledge of the truth. It seems as if history is repeating itself. When people begin to understand that the church is not about the minister and it is about understanding the word of God, then maybe there will be a sifting of Self Appointed Pastors, who come to the ministry to make money.

I believe very strongly that one of the reasons for the "so called men of God" to behave this unprincipled manner is because they do not understand the ministry. What is the criterion of being a minister? Most people wake up one morning and say the lord has spoken to me, "therefore I have been called", which is very shady. It might be that God did not call them but rather they called themselves. I think that the government or a well recognised church governing body should regulate and define what and who a minister is. In some churches the criteria to be a minister is a prophecy or a dream, and others a hard earned degree in ministerial studies which is over a period of 4 years. Maybe if Pastors sacrificed and went to the school of prophets they will know how much they have put in order to attaining a ministerial qualification, then maybe the will take the ministry more seriously and not abuse their position.

It is when outsider reveal truths about what is happening on the inside of the Church.

Paul Govender

Theology Student
E-mail – govenp@hbc.ac.za

Wow! What's happening there in South Africa with the pastors? I had so many calls about the 3rd Degree program that I am curious to view that article.

Can I find that article on the web? and where? Good Patta!

forward reply to mtsinaiamezion@gmail.com

Cheers and best wishes in the Motherland!

I cannot agree with the Theological student in his assessment of the so-called pastors within the South African church. Ministering within a church means that we work with people and their problems. The government requires people to have graduated medical school before they can become doctors or social workers to be trained at a recognized institution because they work with people. Yet, in ministry, a man can simply claim that he has been called by God and begin to work with people. The results are catastrophic. I personally spent close to 8 years and had acquired two masters degrees for ministry and I still feel unprepared for the task.

Anyone who feels that he or she is called to the ministry must be prepared to discipline him/herself to a number of years of formal training. After all, other professions demand it.

Cedric

Ever heard of a good journalist asking someone 'how do you feel?' It would be a very good question if I have just won a grammy award or something, but what does she expect the answer to be?
What facts are we, the discernng viewer, to gather from the answer? All we want is the facts, not some sloppy showcasing and high frequency shouting like some 'straatvrou!' No wonder the program is called 3rd degree, because it lacks 1st degree norms...
Patta fails to see that all those people who lost money lost it because of GREED. Patta is trying to find the money from the poor woman, because her bad journalism cannot find the actual mastermind. Ever heard of Lee-anne Manas? Now that's a journalist!

hi all
i know u guys go deep into investigation.
i wonder if you can tell me whatever happened two heinie, the guy who murdered those two girls in knysna? no one knows??

Debra is the best, no doubt about that. You people obviously dont appreciate good journalism.

I agree completely with the comments already posted. I have on 3 occasions e-mailed 3rd degree, without so much as a reply in response to an issue I raised. I also find her far too personal and although views are not necessarily those of the station or anyone associated with e-tv, she could have fooled me. In addition to this my vehicle was stolen and foul play was obviously the case at a Shell service station; still no reply. I take it this piece was not sensational enough. Typical.

Surely the unshelling of hidden truth (often which, an atrocity) is far better than to have no idea of the extent of the nature and level of crime or the corruption at work, corroding our country?


An ironic time-waster is that Deborah Patta is criticized more than she is applauded. Yet hundreds of hidden cases have been exposed by the 3rd degree team, with the opportunity for the public to support the injustice, in order to bring about measurable change.


I think that far greater than interviewing style to critique, is the state of our country - and in particular of our government who is in denial of the crime crisis we are in. Mbeki on BBC "there is no proof .. SA has a crime problem, because it is not true". That is as true a statement "HIV does not cause AIDS", which led to ARV's being withheld for a time far greater than they needed be ie. cruel prolonging of morbidity + mortality rates, extended infliction on family + friends, and ecomonic (workforce) stagnation.


Why dont we, as SA citizens, do something more constructive with our time, and agree more in principle with what is trying to be achieved, instead of so adamently arguing against its medium.



Pro-Active Anti-Crime Capaigns:

www.virsa.org.za (victims in the republic of SA)
(Petetion to have lawsuit against gov re: crime)
www.crimeline.co.za (or sms 32211)
www.zerotolerance.co.za (anti-business corruption)
www.FIFA.com (click "contact FIFA" email FIFA) to express concern for international aid to come. (International aid forced ARV's to be distributed)

I think her style is completely distastefull. She has more than enough eveidence and question marks in the right places, so I see no need in her barbaric interviewing style. She needs to deal with her interviews giving more respect, mabye that'll add more integrity to her work cause she's turning a raging lunatic....and it doesnt look good. She needs to get some class!!!

The answers of the acting national director of public prosecutions on 3rd degree were not convincing at all.He does not seem to know what he is doing.The advocate was surely in the management meeting that took a decision to issue warrants to the top cop,why now does he want to satisfy himself.Is there any new evidence submitted?He could have told whoever wanted him to re-look at the warrants, that he was part of the decision making, as he is part of the management.How can he be unable to to answer the cross examination by the journalist.He does not seem to have the qualities of a lawyer.His anwers were really not convincing.

She has missed the plot completely and has no DEGREE of integrity as well as no dipomacy at all. It's fine to ask the right questions but to RANT and RAVE is quite the opposite

I have been put on waiting list since July this year for a Drivers license and I keep on calling their call centre every week which they all tell me that their system is down or too slow; they instead take my details manually which I believe forms part of that day's thrash. I am still waiting even today. I don’t want to redo my driver’s learners as it expires next year (2008). SA when are we going to start getting proper service delivered on time? Now I understand why people are arrested daily for Driving with no license. Some of us can’t get Jobs because of this license issues, some can’t buy cars. SA please help us get the service we deserve. Thank you in advance.

I feel for you. but if you are in KZN you can go to Rossburgh testing Ground, Pinetown or Winklespruit. it normally takes up to 3 months max for booking of your test. if your learners is going to experire they give u a special booking free of charge.however you have to go there personally and speak to the officer in charge of bookings.

wish you all da best.

My kids got their learners in 2007. We have been on the waiting list since then for dates for the license, and their learners are now expired. We have to now wait to get a booking for the learners all over again. This service is so pathetic that it makes me sick. You have to call back every hour to be told that we have no dates available, please call back. When are they going to have dates and when will we get a booking. Has anyone been fortunate enough that maybe can share their secret with us? I am at wits end with this system, surely they can see that it’s not working and this is frustrating South Africans. Or is it that the governments don’t care. HELP or Maybe Debra Patter need to gets involved to get some answers.

I think 3rd degree is a very good show.Every one that is against it especially where that money issue is concerned,I think maybe they got their share out of it.There fore they can say the things they say in the above.

They are all just as the ones who actually robbed them.Aren`t you happy we have some people in this country that wants us all to know the truth of whats happening.Unlike all your
Leaders is this country.Its so true what they say.
"In South Africa you frist must have a criminal record before you can become something"I think that`s why there are so may crimes. As they say "Bantoe,Tronktoe,Parlamentoe"Does this not make you think? Is it not true?Just have a look at our land and the people who`s ruling it.

I honestly admire this woman and her passion for her work. Every Tuesday night I am glued to my TV when its time for 3DR DEGREE.

Debra is just a straight to the point journilist and thats what South Africa needs!

Thank you Debra Patta&crew for trying to bring us the truth.

you obviously dont have a life then. Hehe

She doing her job very well.
Thumbs-up.

are you nuts, this presenter or journalist whatever you want to call her, has allowed her 3rd degree show to go to her head. she handles her interviews immaturely, she is out to "make a point" and all it comes down to is that she wants to be known as a hell of a journalist that leaves no stone unturned but unfortunately for her, she has over done it. With fame gone to her head that is all she sees.

She is immature, aggressive, argumentive, feeble and does not have the X factor, most of all it is not the topic that she truelly cares about all she is interested in is to get the ratings.......well Debra you get no rating from me. I use to always watch your shows infact i use to have stand up fights with my family because your show use slot into other shows they wanted to watch. Let me tell you for the last year i have not watched one of your shows. It is amazing how it all went to your head ...........

Your shows are boring and you have become too concieted ....take a break and come back when you touch ground again

I think that Patta is a good journalist but lost it along the way.
She tries too hard now!

MM

i agree with you completely i think they should replace with Noeleen from 3 talk Hehe.

Thanks for concentrating on the truth of important issues, Debra Patta, and for having the courage to tell it like it is and share it with those of us who care. When SA succeeds again, it will have the journalists, the independent judiciary and a common sensed supportive public, to thank.

I didnt understand anything about south african politics but because of you i now know everything and i developed interest in reading about it, so thank you.

I feel shame for those who hate you coz they havent been victims of crime and abuse and they always get paid by their companies.....Thank you very much to me its personal because without you I wouldnt be eating and working today (im not making you my God or What its just to say thank you for your passion and dedication to your work)....I watch your show every tuesday at 8pm and say hi to Ben Said he is quite cute and i love his voice.

i wud like to know when dept of education is going to ban cellphs@schools! my son was violently assaulted@ a prominent dbn north high school recently! i was informed that the motive was for the incident to be placed on the net! are we going to wait for more violent & murderous attacks to take place before we do something about this behavior? anonymous

cellphones are not the problem. Discipline is!!! Do people not get it??? What if something happened to your son at school where he is too afraid to tell someone at school? What do you expect him to do? I'd prefer my kids to call me immediately. As for the education department, they are useless in any case!

I have just witnessed blatant discrimination during a program about discrimination.

I do not condone or agree with the Reitz video, but I can understand the frustration and the juvenile attempt to express themselves.

Nobody has told you to share your show with another presenter or that you had to include 10 Dog Food commercials per show.

You have no excuse for your behaviour. What a pathetic and disgusting excuse for a human/journalist you have become.

I agree, Ms Patta has become an embarrasment to South africa's journalist community, what a shame to rape an opportunity like this, only to promote herself.

The credible speaker form the FF+ was continuously attacked with Ms Patta's personal little judgement of "You Failed!" over and over; Could she not realise that this man saw her coming and was not going to step into her little spider trap? Clearly she was the one who failed in her futile attempt. I am not even discussing the other chap, he was just not in the picture.....

I never use to miss 3rd degree, because Pratt was direct and to the point when interviewing! But something's gone wrong? Her style of interviewing has become so damn irrrrrritating! she doesn't know when to SHUT UP. How the heck does one find out the true nature or motives of the people she interviews when she continuously interrups them and then ..... (duh) .... tells them, in her version, what they are actually saying!!!???

What a disgrace she was last night again! She needs to be "bliksemed" by somebody but the guy last night was unfortunately to decent. She is a typical example of a woman who can not handle a "senior" position, and this comes from a "lady"! Get rid of the rubbish.

Having watched Debra Patta’s awful interview with Cornelius from the FF+ and David from SASCO – I don’t think Ill be watching 3rd Degree again!

She was obviously biased towards the SASCO guy – who could hardly string a sentence together – and spoke about ‘jumping to another planet’.
What a fool!



The only person who made any sense was Cornelius – he strongly condemned the racist video,but he was not allowed to speak after that!

Debra Patta continuously interrupted him when he was making a valid point.

Her interviewing style is juvenile in the extreme and highly irritating,where one reaches for the remote to change the channel.

There are a few good TV/Radio journalists in this country,but Debra Patta is certainly not one of them.

She’s hopeless! – I hope Etv get rid of her soon.

It is strange what a person will do or say to try to be "in". What the hell did she think? O yes sorry, she can not think - she is to stupid. They should give her the Jerry Springer show. She will rock 'cause she is just as commen.

This must be the worst possible piece of “investigative journalism” the world has ever experienced.

I am talking about Debra Patta’s adolescent behaviour on tonight’s programme. Why did she not just have a one-to-one interview with the person from SASCO?

This one-sided “discussion” was laughable and an insult to the viewer’s intelligence. Obvious she is desperate to appeal to the less informed to win popular numbers, but she must realize that tonight she made a complete fool of herself!

Never once was the content, or as she rightly pointed out in the beginning, the “context” of the video, discussed. Yet she allows ample time for imbecile comments such as “Racists are crazy and must go to another planet” from this person who was not able to make one single worthy contribution of his own, this SASCO Representative.

No depth and an opportunity wasted, but this has become the trademark of the over-zealous Ms Patta, desperately trying to impress….

Why not allow the coherent and objective input from the FF (on this occasion?) He made excellent points about the blacks-only universities, but of course, this point clashed with your preconceived idea as to how this programme should turn out, so of course, this had to be cut short.

Honestly, Ms Patta' s behaviour was a disgrace to black and white intelligence, especially a slap in the face of all journalists. The primary reason being that SHE decides in advance, how this little discussion should go, ….how quaint…

Congratulations to the FF speaker who is obviously an extremely well informed and disciplined speaker; his manner reflects an excellent upbringing and his self-control was remarkable, especially under the trying circumstances and mad onslaught from this woman.

Yes, the video was in bad taste, but it was so absolutely clear that these guys were misguided in their effort to copy a “Fear Factor” and slap-stick style comedy to bring their point across. Obviously, it was clear as daylight that the liquid added to the food mixture came from a bottle! But nothing about this Ms Patta?

This type of misguided student behaviour clearly does not compare with black youth killing the elderly white by burning them with hot plastic, raping or torturing them!

No Ms Patta, because it was not in alignment with YOUR “investigative journalism” objective…..mass hysteria is what you are after…

I have always been a very keen 3rd degree viewer, but this woman needs to review her style and objectivity as a matter of urgency.

Spot On . But I will definitely not be watching her show ever again so I don't care what she does

Debora of 3rs degree should follow in the footsteps of her look-alike Mynie Grove and start a singing career with that shrill voice! She wants the floor anyway! I will certainly not buy that cd though.

I watched 3rd Degree for the first time on tuesday keen to listen to what our northern neighbour's presidential hopeful S. Makoni had to say. Several times during the interview he told her to stop putting words into his mouth as she was very pushy and insistant on having him agree with her point of view. Furthermore if she didn't hear what she wanted to hear she interrupted him. Needless to say i got nothing out of the interview... I hope journalism schools use her as an example of how not to conduct an interview.

if you got nothing good to say then shut up, debora is one of the best journalists i have ever come across, she gets straight to the point and doesnt take shit from anyone...

ah shame...
so some of you dont agree with what she says-get over it!
its not her job to please you...

go debora, Rock on

she gives us info on what we dont know. shes got a haert for her job. but can anyone tell me what ever happened to agliotti, paparas and his dad, and the brat kebble case? lorthian

The reason why bad things are happenning in this country is because of those negative people out there, we are struggling to make this country a better place and at least someone risks her life to do that. Nobody is being forced to watch the programme everyone has a choice,Debra you are doing a splendid job and you are not going anywhere. Go out there and give the nation what they need to know. You are the answer to our questions. Thank you and be brave girl we salute you.

Hi Debra,



I would love you to have a discussion on child maintenance



I took my ex to the court last year the 20th of July for maintenance for my two sons age 18 & 15, we appeared in court twice – 13th of September and the 08th of October 2007, the matter was resolved that my ex must pay R400 per child, R600 school fees for my 18 year old and buy Christmas clothes for R2000 each. This was suppose to be effective from end of November 2007



My ex haven’t paid in a cent up until now, I went back to court on the 09th of January 2008 and I was given a date to appear in court on the 25th of January in order for the court to Garnish my ex, a garnishee order was issued, and still I haven’t received a cent for my two boys.



I went back to court and asked them how long does it take for a garnishee to be issued, and the court clerk told me that the garnishee was issued I must just wait for payment, but still no payment, I took it upon myself to phone my ex’s employee to find out if a garnishee order was delivered for my ex, the refuse to give me any information and instead they ask me for my number and said they’ll get back to. To my surprise 7min later my ex called me on the same number I gave his emlpoyee, he didn't have my work number, so in this case what do i do if an employee backs up an employer that doesn't pay maintenance. I'm at a dead end



So here I am with two teenagers – 18 year old is in matric and 15 year old in Grade 9 with no financial help from their father what so ever and even the court is failing me, I don’t have money for an attorney- I need help and advise



I would like to stay anonymous



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Daphne Hokai

ATIO corporate division



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I know very well that this is not the platform to raise this but i will nontheless. I am a former security guard (31) who, by the grace of God and numerous struggles have managed to end up doing 2nd LLB at Wits University. The problem however is a lack of funding since my chosen field of study does not appear to have any visible financial aid i.e bursaries. If anyone is able to assist please do so, it would be dearly appreciated. By the way i am totally addicted to e-news at 7pm and 3rd Degree in particular... last nights episode on animal abuse was quit difficult to stomach however and i think the show repeated the horse beating more then was required to make a point

we say we are in a democratic time and yet racism is rooming the streets of potchefstoom in von villig the shops from the bult near the university.its sad that we are young black or white.but we still fight the battle of race white kids who come to the university are not even trying.i went to borbens in the bult and i was refused entry becouse of the black skin that i have but my two other white foreign friends were allowed to come in.though they did nt go in what are we still teaching other countries about our country .so much fo the rainbow country this is sad....

What I cannot understand,is how Patta is allowed to stand as Judge and Jury over others.
How she is allowed to get away with her arrogant,aggresive,derogatory,dogmatic,bombastic on sided attitude is beyond me.
Surely she should be ''neutral'' and ''uninfluential'',and let the viewers decide for themselves on the merits of the issues at hand.
Yet,she is allowed to push her attitude and preconceived ideas on us.
Maybe Patta should take note on the way in which ''Dr.Phil'' conducts his interviews/discussions.
Rightly or wrongly,my suggestion to her,is to at least be respectful and give the ''benefit of the doubt'' to those she is so righteously interviewing(attacking).

adventage of.

u r the genius, make south africa balance girl, the sabc is the to publish all the propaganda, so get into the real word and i adore u for that....this is ur biggest fan in south africa

as a christian, i was left with a lot of unanswered questios regarding the news sowetan revealed about Pastor Chrs and his christ embassy church.the fact that his so-called healing miracles are just an act; that he trained people before his meetings to pretend to be on wheel chairs.
i challenge you, Debra and your team, to investigate this guy and his church; i need the truth! so, your investigative journalism is needed.

Thank you for the wonderful show,

Only God knows what was really going on in Mornee's mind. I thik parents and older siblings should be more aware of what is going on in the childrend's lives. There are a lot of things happening around us that enables kids to behave the way they do. Doing away with corporal punishment at school you might as well be saying go ahead and do whatever you like no one is going to touch you, saying young girls can have abortion without their parents knowing about it - you don't need your parents for advice. Everywhere I turn there's a box of condoms - go ahead and have sex as long as you protect yourself, what happend to sex before marriage is a sin. As far as the so called "sleep not" what kind of a name is that and tell me who would want to be in an animal trans, come on. The way they look they has satan written all over them. I'm not saying they made Mornee do what he did, I'm simply saying they played a role in what he became.

Hello

I hope you take my email seriously. I have just notice that an online company, known as Gumtree is displaying the most vile pornographic material I have ever had the displeasure of being exposed to (as witnessed under their dating heading). One of the postings, shows 2 men with their penis's stuck in that of a third man. Of course there are other disgusting postings on all 3 of these Gumtree sites, Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban. I didn’t bother reviewing other branches of gumtree but I have taken the time to report what I did see. Someone has to stand up against despicable business people.

For God sake, children can freely look at Gumtree and I am fully aware that our child rape (between minors) has increased rapidly lately. When will this stop? The media keeps putting this kind of material out there, which leaves our kids in the most precarious of positions. I must call it like I see it, since the ANC has come into power the basic morals of this country have deteriorated drastically, while rape has shamelessly increased. Don’t take this comment personally, just do something positive about the filth that is thrust down our throats from all directions. Gumtree is the worst I have seen in a long time and I believe they should be held accountable, even going as far as having their sites shut down. Because they are so well-known, that should serve as an example to other sick individuals. The only way to kill the snake, is to chop his head off.

Footnote: I would not have even come across this vile material on the Gumtree online sites if I had not gone online to advertise my services. The joke is, my advert was rejected without explanation and I only provide simple Numerology Charts (which is similar to Astrology). It was at this point that I started checking out other postings to try and learn why my advert was rejected. After what I had to witness I am pleased my advert was rejected, I do not condone that filth on a public forum. Don’t take my word for it, type "Gumtree" on the google search engine, there is more than enough filth for you to view.

Speaking on behalf of all honourable South Africans

Renée Webber
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083 395 8634
+27 82 549 6555 (International)